Ever wonder what happens when you get two sharp minds—author Nassim Nicholas Taleb and strategist Charlie McElligott—together over a steak dinner? Turns out, they’ve got strong opinions on more than just finance. Taleb is all about squid ink pasta, while McElligott is a die-hard carnivore. The Odd Lots podcast recorded them live at a New York event, blending market talk with foodie banter in a subscriber-exclusive episode.

Editor’s Note: It’s not every day you hear heavyweights in trading and risk geek out over food. This episode humanizes these thinkers, making their ideas more relatable—and showing that even experts have quirky passions. For fans of Taleb, McElligott, or just great conversation, it’s a rare (and juicy) crossover between brains and bites.